||Continued criticism of liberal theory centers on the lack of individuals' relationship to the community and the obligations of citizenship. This paper seeks to recover Plato's Gorgias as a tool for understanding what good political rhetoric and deliberation involves, in both his time and, as I argue, ours. Chiefly, this involves the rhetor's task of removing the corruption that exists in his auditor's soul, committing the former to work of human betterment transcending the modern fixation of material goods. By adopting the citizenly practices Plato points toward, modern liberals can better answer their critics' contentions that they espouse thin, attenuated forms of deliberation and citizenship. Moreover, they can better embrace aspects of human agency lost in the straightforward allocation of goods a value-neutral conception of politics intimates.